COMBINACIONES HASTA 15000 APUESTAS

[marcelo]

buenas tardes, ya que en este foro se empieza ha hablar de combinaciones, a ver si podemos
especificar combinaciones interesantes,(o dar alguna idea).
con numeros de apuestas o aproximados, que no se macrodisparen.
sds.
hay reducciones interesantes:
como la perfecta de 21252 apuestas de 24 numeros que si tienes 5 despues de salir 5 bolas
ademas tienes 3de 5 , y por lo tanto 3 opciones de 6.
si se coge las parejas de numeros (1,2)(3,4) y se pide de 1a2 ac. se queda en 2280 con buenos resultados

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03,04,07,13,16,24
03,04,07,13,17,22
03,04,07,13,18,20
03,04,07,13,19,23
03,04,07,13,21,24
03,04,07,14,15,22
03,04,07,14,15,23
03,04,07,14,16,17
03,04,07,14,16,19
03,04,07,14,17,19
03,04,07,14,18,21
03,04,07,14,20,24
03,04,07,14,22,23
03,04,07,15,17,21
03,04,07,15,18,20
03,04,07,15,19,24
03,04,07,15,22,23
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03,04,07,16,20,23
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03,04,07,17,18,23
03,04,07,17,18,24
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03,04,07,19,21,22
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03,04,08,09,11,23
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03,04,08,09,18,19
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03,04,08,13,18,21
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03,04,08,14,16,20
03,04,08,14,17,22
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03,04,08,14,19,23
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03,04,08,15,18,22
03,04,08,15,20,23
03,04,08,15,21,24
03,04,08,16,17,21
03,04,08,16,18,20
03,04,08,16,19,24
03,04,08,16,22,23
03,04,08,17,18,23
03,04,08,17,18,24
03,04,08,17,23,24
03,04,08,18,23,24
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03,04,08,19,20,22
03,04,08,19,21,22
03,04,08,20,21,22
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03,04,09,10,13,14
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03,04,09,10,17,19
03,04,09,10,17,21
03,04,09,10,17,24
03,04,09,10,18,20
03,04,09,10,18,22
03,04,09,10,18,23
03,04,09,10,19,21
03,04,09,10,19,24
03,04,09,10,20,22
03,04,09,10,20,23
03,04,09,10,21,24
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03,04,09,11,13,17
03,04,09,11,13,18
03,04,09,11,14,15
03,04,09,11,14,19
03,04,09,11,14,20
03,04,09,11,15,19
03,04,09,11,15,20
03,04,09,11,16,17
03,04,09,11,16,18
03,04,09,11,17,18
03,04,09,11,19,20
03,04,09,11,21,23
03,04,09,11,22,24
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03,04,09,12,13,21
03,04,09,12,13,22
03,04,09,12,14,16
03,04,09,12,14,23
03,04,09,12,14,24
03,04,09,12,15,21
03,04,09,12,15,22
03,04,09,12,16,23
03,04,09,12,16,24
03,04,09,12,17,20
03,04,09,12,18,19
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03,04,09,13,15,22
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03,04,09,13,16,18
03,04,09,13,17,18
03,04,09,13,19,23
03,04,09,13,20,24
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03,04,09,14,15,19
03,04,09,14,15,20
03,04,09,14,16,23
03,04,09,14,16,24
03,04,09,14,17,22
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03,04,09,14,19,20
03,04,09,14,23,24
03,04,09,15,17,23
03,04,09,15,18,24
03,04,09,15,19,20
03,04,09,15,21,22
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03,04,09,16,19,22
03,04,09,16,20,21
03,04,09,16,23,24
03,04,09,17,19,21
03,04,09,17,19,24
03,04,09,17,21,24
03,04,09,18,20,22
03,04,09,18,20,23
03,04,09,18,22,23
03,04,09,19,21,24
03,04,09,20,22,23
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03,04,10,11,13,23
03,04,10,11,13,24
03,04,10,11,14,16
03,04,10,11,14,21
03,04,10,11,14,22
03,04,10,11,15,23
03,04,10,11,15,24
03,04,10,11,16,21
03,04,10,11,16,22
03,04,10,11,17,20
03,04,10,11,18,19
03,04,10,11,21,22
03,04,10,11,23,24
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03,04,10,12,13,19
03,04,10,12,13,20
03,04,10,12,14,15
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03,04,10,12,14,18
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03,04,10,12,15,18
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03,04,10,12,16,20
03,04,10,12,17,18
03,04,10,12,19,20
03,04,10,12,21,23
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03,04,10,13,15,24
03,04,10,13,16,19
03,04,10,13,16,20
03,04,10,13,17,22
03,04,10,13,18,21
03,04,10,13,19,20
03,04,10,13,23,24
03,04,10,14,15,17
03,04,10,14,15,18
03,04,10,14,16,21
03,04,10,14,16,22
03,04,10,14,17,18
03,04,10,14,19,23
03,04,10,14,20,24
03,04,10,14,21,22
03,04,10,15,17,18
03,04,10,15,19,22
03,04,10,15,20,21
03,04,10,15,23,24
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03,04,10,16,18,24
03,04,10,16,19,20
03,04,10,16,21,22
03,04,10,17,19,21
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03,04,10,17,21,24
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03,04,10,18,20,23
03,04,10,18,22,23
03,04,10,19,21,24
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03,04,11,12,17,19
03,04,11,12,17,22
03,04,11,12,17,23
03,04,11,12,18,20
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03,04,11,12,18,24
03,04,11,12,19,22
03,04,11,12,19,23
03,04,11,12,20,21
03,04,11,12,20,24
03,04,11,12,21,24
03,04,11,12,22,23
03,04,11,13,15,23
03,04,11,13,15,24
03,04,11,13,16,17
03,04,11,13,16,18
03,04,11,13,17,18
03,04,11,13,19,21
03,04,11,13,20,22
03,04,11,13,23,24
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03,04,11,14,15,20
03,04,11,14,16,21
03,04,11,14,16,22
03,04,11,14,17,24
03,04,11,14,18,23
03,04,11,14,19,20
03,04,11,14,21,22
03,04,11,15,17,21
03,04,11,15,18,22
03,04,11,15,19,20
03,04,11,15,23,24
03,04,11,16,17,18
03,04,11,16,19,24
03,04,11,16,20,23
03,04,11,16,21,22
03,04,11,17,19,22
03,04,11,17,19,23
03,04,11,17,22,23
03,04,11,18,20,21
03,04,11,18,20,24
03,04,11,18,21,24
03,04,11,19,22,23
03,04,11,20,21,24
03,04,12,13,15,21
03,04,12,13,15,22
03,04,12,13,16,19
03,04,12,13,16,20
03,04,12,13,17,24
03,04,12,13,18,23
03,04,12,13,19,20
03,04,12,13,21,22
03,04,12,14,15,17
03,04,12,14,15,18
03,04,12,14,16,23
03,04,12,14,16,24
03,04,12,14,17,18
03,04,12,14,19,21
03,04,12,14,20,22
03,04,12,14,23,24
03,04,12,15,17,18
03,04,12,15,19,24
03,04,12,15,20,23
03,04,12,15,21,22
03,04,12,16,17,21
03,04,12,16,18,22
03,04,12,16,19,20
03,04,12,16,23,24
03,04,12,17,19,22
03,04,12,17,19,23
03,04,12,17,22,23
03,04,12,18,20,21
03,04,12,18,20,24
03,04,12,18,21,24
03,04,12,19,22,23
03,04,12,20,21,24
03,04,13,14,15,16
03,04,13,14,17,20
03,04,13,14,17,21
03,04,13,14,17,23
03,04,13,14,18,19
03,04,13,14,18,22
03,04,13,14,18,24
03,04,13,14,19,22
03,04,13,14,19,24
03,04,13,14,20,21
03,04,13,14,20,23
03,04,13,14,21,23
03,04,13,14,22,24
03,04,13,15,17,19
03,04,13,15,18,20
03,04,13,15,21,22
03,04,13,15,23,24
03,04,13,16,17,18
03,04,13,16,19,20
03,04,13,16,21,24
03,04,13,16,22,23
03,04,13,17,20,21
03,04,13,17,20,23
03,04,13,17,21,23
03,04,13,18,19,22
03,04,13,18,19,24
03,04,13,18,22,24
03,04,13,19,22,24
03,04,13,20,21,23
03,04,14,15,17,18
03,04,14,15,19,20
03,04,14,15,21,24
03,04,14,15,22,23
03,04,14,16,17,19
03,04,14,16,18,20
03,04,14,16,21,22
03,04,14,16,23,24
03,04,14,17,20,21
03,04,14,17,20,23
03,04,14,17,21,23
03,04,14,18,19,22
03,04,14,18,19,24
03,04,14,18,22,24
03,04,14,19,22,24
03,04,14,20,21,23
03,04,15,16,17,20
03,04,15,16,17,22
03,04,15,16,17,24
03,04,15,16,18,19
03,04,15,16,18,21
03,04,15,16,18,23
03,04,15,16,19,21
03,04,15,16,19,23
03,04,15,16,20,22
03,04,15,16,20,24
03,04,15,16,21,23
03,04,15,16,22,24
03,04,15,17,20,22
03,04,15,17,20,24
03,04,15,17,22,24
03,04,15,18,19,21
03,04,15,18,19,23
03,04,15,18,21,23
03,04,15,19,21,23
03,04,15,20,22,24
03,04,16,17,20,22
03,04,16,17,20,24
03,04,16,17,22,24
03,04,16,18,19,21
03,04,16,18,19,23
03,04,16,18,21,23
03,04,16,19,21,23
03,04,16,20,22,24
03,04,17,18,19,20
03,04,17,18,21,22
03,04,17,18,23,24
03,04,17,19,21,24
03,04,17,19,22,23
03,04,17,20,21,23
03,04,17,20,22,24
03,04,18,19,21,23
03,04,18,19,22,24
03,04,18,20,21,24
03,04,18,20,22,23
03,04,19,20,21,22
03,04,19,20,23,24
03,04,21,22,23,24

[marcelo]

y ahora otra con las mismas parejas (1,2)(3,4) se pide 1 pareja aciertos y del total de las 12
parejas de los 24 numeros de 2a3 baja a 552 apuestas, pero no son feos los resultados en caso
de acertar, pero arriesga más

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01,02,03,04,05,07
01,02,03,04,05,08
01,02,03,04,06,07
01,02,03,04,06,08
01,02,03,04,07,08
01,02,03,04,09,10
01,02,03,04,09,11
01,02,03,04,09,12
01,02,03,04,10,11
01,02,03,04,10,12
01,02,03,04,11,12
01,02,03,04,13,14
01,02,03,04,13,15
01,02,03,04,13,16
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01,02,03,04,14,16
01,02,03,04,15,16
01,02,03,04,17,18
01,02,03,04,17,19
01,02,03,04,17,20
01,02,03,04,18,19
01,02,03,04,18,20
01,02,03,04,19,20
01,02,03,04,21,22
01,02,03,04,21,23
01,02,03,04,21,24
01,02,03,04,22,23
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01,02,03,04,23,24
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01,02,03,05,06,08
01,02,03,05,07,08
01,02,03,06,07,08
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01,02,03,09,11,12
01,02,03,10,11,12
01,02,03,13,14,15
01,02,03,13,14,16
01,02,03,13,15,16
01,02,03,14,15,16
01,02,03,17,18,19
01,02,03,17,18,20
01,02,03,17,19,20
01,02,03,18,19,20
01,02,03,21,22,23
01,02,03,21,22,24
01,02,03,21,23,24
01,02,03,22,23,24
01,02,04,05,06,07
01,02,04,05,06,08
01,02,04,05,07,08
01,02,04,06,07,08
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01,02,04,09,10,12
01,02,04,09,11,12
01,02,04,10,11,12
01,02,04,13,14,15
01,02,04,13,14,16
01,02,04,13,15,16
01,02,04,14,15,16
01,02,04,17,18,19
01,02,04,17,18,20
01,02,04,17,19,20
01,02,04,18,19,20
01,02,04,21,22,23
01,02,04,21,22,24
01,02,04,21,23,24
01,02,04,22,23,24
01,02,05,06,07,08
01,02,05,06,09,10
01,02,05,06,09,15
01,02,05,06,09,16
01,02,05,06,10,15
01,02,05,06,10,16
01,02,05,06,11,12
01,02,05,06,11,13
01,02,05,06,11,14
01,02,05,06,12,13
01,02,05,06,12,14
01,02,05,06,13,14
01,02,05,06,15,16
01,02,05,06,17,18
01,02,05,06,17,23
01,02,05,06,17,24
01,02,05,06,18,23
01,02,05,06,18,24
01,02,05,06,19,20
01,02,05,06,19,21
01,02,05,06,19,22
01,02,05,06,20,21
01,02,05,06,20,22
01,02,05,06,21,22
01,02,05,06,23,24
01,02,05,09,10,15
01,02,05,09,10,16
01,02,05,09,15,16
01,02,05,10,15,16
01,02,05,11,12,13
01,02,05,11,12,14
01,02,05,11,13,14
01,02,05,12,13,14
01,02,05,17,18,23
01,02,05,17,18,24
01,02,05,17,23,24
01,02,05,18,23,24
01,02,05,19,20,21
01,02,05,19,20,22
01,02,05,19,21,22
01,02,05,20,21,22
01,02,06,09,10,15
01,02,06,09,10,16
01,02,06,09,15,16
01,02,06,10,15,16
01,02,06,11,12,13
01,02,06,11,12,14
01,02,06,11,13,14
01,02,06,12,13,14
01,02,06,17,18,23
01,02,06,17,18,24
01,02,06,17,23,24
01,02,06,18,23,24
01,02,06,19,20,21
01,02,06,19,20,22
01,02,06,19,21,22
01,02,06,20,21,22
01,02,07,08,09,10
01,02,07,08,09,13
01,02,07,08,09,14
01,02,07,08,10,13
01,02,07,08,10,14
01,02,07,08,11,12
01,02,07,08,11,15
01,02,07,08,11,16
01,02,07,08,12,15
01,02,07,08,12,16
01,02,07,08,13,14
01,02,07,08,15,16
01,02,07,08,17,18
01,02,07,08,17,21
01,02,07,08,17,22
01,02,07,08,18,21
01,02,07,08,18,22
01,02,07,08,19,20
01,02,07,08,19,23
01,02,07,08,19,24
01,02,07,08,20,23
01,02,07,08,20,24
01,02,07,08,21,22
01,02,07,08,23,24
01,02,07,09,10,13
01,02,07,09,10,14
01,02,07,09,13,14
01,02,07,10,13,14
01,02,07,11,12,15
01,02,07,11,12,16
01,02,07,11,15,16
01,02,07,12,15,16
01,02,07,17,18,21
01,02,07,17,18,22
01,02,07,17,21,22
01,02,07,18,21,22
01,02,07,19,20,23
01,02,07,19,20,24
01,02,07,19,23,24
01,02,07,20,23,24
01,02,08,09,10,13
01,02,08,09,10,14
01,02,08,09,13,14
01,02,08,10,13,14
01,02,08,11,12,15
01,02,08,11,12,16
01,02,08,11,15,16
01,02,08,12,15,16
01,02,08,17,18,21
01,02,08,17,18,22
01,02,08,17,21,22
01,02,08,18,21,22
01,02,08,19,20,23
01,02,08,19,20,24
01,02,08,19,23,24
01,02,08,20,23,24
01,02,09,10,11,12
01,02,09,10,13,14
01,02,09,10,15,16
01,02,09,10,17,19
01,02,09,10,17,22
01,02,09,10,17,23
01,02,09,10,18,20
01,02,09,10,18,21
01,02,09,10,18,24
01,02,09,10,19,22
01,02,09,10,19,23
01,02,09,10,20,21
01,02,09,10,20,24
01,02,09,10,21,24
01,02,09,10,22,23
01,02,09,11,17,18
01,02,09,11,19,20
01,02,09,12,21,22
01,02,09,12,23,24
01,02,09,13,19,20
01,02,09,13,23,24
01,02,09,14,17,18
01,02,09,14,21,22
01,02,09,15,17,18
01,02,09,15,23,24
01,02,09,16,19,20
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podeis colocar mas combinaciones, yo habiendo leidos a muchos se que no os llego ni a la
suela de los zapatos pero algunas maneras hay de mejorar, otra cosa es que las mejoras
o tengas que arriesgar mucho para bajar o se encarezcan demasiado.
sds

[kot98]

Gracias marcelo, por la idea y las combinaciones.

[SKS]

Busco una forma de combinar 35 números de forma rentable, que en caso de fallo en dos números de la ombinación ganadora siga siendo rentabla, o al menos sea económicamente recuperadora-

Se que lo que pido es la piedra filosofal, pero debe haber algo, las típicas tablas de reducidas, evidentemente que si se aciertan los 6 números fijo que el premio prometido de la reducción está. el problema es que no es rentable, ya que de que narices sirve que acertando los 6 números, sólo obtengas un premio de 3, ó de 4, ó de lo que sea, si la inversión es de 10000 € y recuperas 4 €, (es un ejemplo).

Busco que por lo menos si arriesgo 10 recupere 10. (No no me pincho, ni he bebido, ni me han desahusiado. ..., estoy en mi plenas facultades).

Pero, para empezar, en lugar de 35 podemos empezar con una reducida de por ejemplo 29 números, luego otra de 30, otra de 35 y una última de 36 números.

Gracias para quién pueda arrojar luz a este tema.
Saludos a todos
SKS

[Jako47]

Claro, eso es lo que queremos todos: Una combinación baratita que la mayor parte de las veces nos vuelva a dar lo invertido. Lo que ocurre es que eso no existe. Casi siempre se pierde lo que se juega. En el mejor de los casos se recupera la mitad.
La única manera de conseguir beneficios o al menos recuperar lo invertido es crear una peña y jugar grandes cantidades de dinero. Y tampoco se puede garantizar la recuperación del dinero, pero sí habrá más posibilidad de conseguirlo.
Un particular es mejor que se dedique a las apuestas deportivas.
De todas maneras, en Quinielista tienes todas las reducciones jugables en la primitiva. Para la bonoloto no tienes más que descontar la mitad del precio.
A mí, particularmente, me gusta la combinación de 20 números al 3 por 5 euros en bonoloto y 10 euros en primitiva. Es la única que se adapta a mi presupuesto. Aun así, esos 20 números me parecen pocos para poder acertar algo. Pero es que la de 35 números al 3 se dispara a 33 euros en bonoloto y 66 en primitiva. Ese precio para mí es una barbaridad y no te garantiza nada. Me parece poco el porcentaje al 4 que se tiene acertando los 6 números: solo 20%.

Esta es la 20 números al 3:

1, 2, 3, 5, 19, 20
1, 2, 4, 6, 19, 20
1, 3, 4, 5, 6, 20
2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 19
7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12
7, 8, 9, 10, 13, 14
7, 8, 15, 16, 17, 18
9, 10, 15, 16, 17, 18
11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16
11, 12, 13, 14, 17, 18

[SKS]

Gracias Jako47.
Efectivamente es lo que todos deseamos y que es complicado no te falta razón pero, siempre hay un pero en todo.

Vamos si me lo permites un poco a análizar la situación y planteado el problema despejamos las variables y a ver que resulta:

El objetivo inicial es intentar combinar 35 números de la mejor forma posible que rentabilice lo más posible la inversión con la miníma inversión posible.

Digamos que es la ecuación buscada. (que no digo nada nuevo con todo eso), pero veamos que podemos hacer.

1.- ¿Se puede poner algún límite a la inversión?
en principio No, ya que eso limita los beneficios, al menos eso parece obvio, ya que implica una reducción de las combinaciones con el inevitable riesgo de perder o dejar escapar un premio importante.

Es decir que la inmediata es pensar en un reducción lo minímo posible, y eso nos lleva al 3 y que sólo puede dar algún 4, con cierto porcentaje de posibilidad, pero muy lejos de una alegría que nos permita recuperar un porcentaje importante de lo invertido.

Por lo tanto, hemos de pensar en una redución miníma y por el momento parece que reducir al 4 con opción de ganar con cierta posibilidad de algún 5.

Todo lo anterior es un poco para poder concretar de alguna manera que valor de inversión es la óptima (entendiendose óptimo como algo deseable, nada es seguro en esto del azar).

Pero, hemos de llegar a alguna propuestas y estas deben, en mi opinión, algún criterio (puede ser criticable, pero es una hipótesis de partida).

Bueno, he determinado hasta aquí que mis reducciones deben ser como minímo al 4.

2.- ¿Eso que inversión debe ser?, bueno es algo complejo, pero partimos de:

Si un acierto de 3 números en la bonoloto me dá un premio de 4 €, mi límite de inversión sería por lógica de 4 €, por lo de recuperar la inversión.

Luego siguiendo esa lógica de andar por casa, si un premio de 4 aciertos es de media 25 € , (y sin contar algún premio de 3), mi límite de inversión sería 25 €, es decir 50 combinaciones en la bonoloto.

Y así, haría el mismo analisis de límite de inversión con el premio máximo que me permite a lo que he reducido (evidentemente y no hay que perder de vista que se supone que vamos a acertar el 6, pero como hge reducido sólo aspiro a ganar lo que he planeado, si gano algo más será en todo caso producto de la casualidad, que lo celebraré, pero que no es lo esperado).

Bueno, como decía que siguiendo la lógica anterior para una reducción al 5, como media el premio de 5 en la bonoloto, es de unos 600 € ( voy bajo porque se ha dado incluso menos, pero voy por el lado de la seguridad, y que de alguna manera aportará mayor acercamiento al retorno de la invesión).

Total que serían 600 € mi límite y por lo tanto 1200 apuestas.

Claro todo esto es muy bonito si tenemos la garantía de acertar los 6 números dentro de la serie de números propuestos (35), de lo contrario es el mayor desastre.

Pero, vamos a dejar volar por un momento al imaginación y decir que somos capaces de asegurar tal cosa y que partimos de esa premisa (Ojalá sea así, que eso es otro cantar).

Pero dejemos volar la imaginación y decimos que vamos a tirar la casa por la ventana y vamos a jugar a asegurar premio de 4, por lo que en el supuesto de ariesgar 25 €.

eso implica 50 combinaciones, vuelvo a formular la pregunta.

¿Cuál es la mejor forma de arriesgar 25 € para combinar 35 números reducidos al 4?.

A.- No vale tener fijos, pues límitaría el beneficio y sería una condición muy complicada de cumplir.
B.- No vale los grupos pues, de esa forma no se asegura que acertando los 6 números se garantice el 4.
C.- No vale anidar grupos para ampliar el ábanico de posibilidades, ya que de esa forma igualmente que el punto anterior no es posible garantizar el 4, pues las combinaciones resultantes en realidad serían totalmente aleatorias, por mucho programa de recucciones que se use, ya que el método heurístico de reducción es aleatorio en esas circunstancias.

Por lo tanto, se límita mucho el método reductor, por lo que quizás sólo nos deja emplear filtros que sean más benignos, tales como pares o impares, terminaciones, etc.

Con esto, dejo otra vez en la mesa la pregunta.

[Jako47]

Los 35 números reducidos al 4 son 968 apuestas. Reducir eso a 50 apuestas es complicadísimo y diría yo que casi imposible.
Yo no puedo hacer nada con ningún programa de primitivas, ya que el único que conozco es el megaprimi y el pc no me deja instalarlo.
Prueba con un programa a meterle filtros a esa combinación a ver hasta dónde puedes bajar el número de columnas.
Lo que suele salir es: 3 impares- 3 pares, 4 impares-2 pares, 4 pares-2 impares, uno o dos números con la misma terminación, los tres primeros números suelen ser del 1 al 25 y los tres siguientes del 26 al 49, casi siempre el primer número es del 1 al 10 y el último del 40 al 49.
Con eso más o menos se eliminarían las cosas raras. el problema es que la columna que salga sea rara, en cuyo caso se acertaría más bien poco.

[SKS]

Hola Jako47.

Gracias, por tu respuesta.

Te puedo recomendar un programa de filtros y se llama miprimitiva aunque hay una versión actaulizada, te recomiendo la 3.

No por nada, es simplemente porque es más agíl en muchas cosas, y si me permites la observación, todo lo que apuentas de filtros, los puedes hacer con el programa que es de libre difusión y te lo puedes descargar en www.miprimitiva.com

Gracias por tu respuesta, seguiremos intentandolo.

[ninjapin]

hola
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11 19 20 23 25 35
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12 13 14 15 16 22
12 14 19 25 26 27
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12 20 22 31 32 33
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13 16 19 23 26 34
13 17 22 26 27 35
13 17 28 30 31 34
13 18 22 24 25 33
14 15 20 23 28 33
14 16 22 24 29 30
14 17 19 25 30 35
14 19 20 21 28 29
15 16 25 30 33 34
15 17 19 27 31 33
15 19 22 23 24 31
15 25 26 27 29 30
16 17 20 24 25 35
16 18 21 22 34 35
16 18 25 28 29 32
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17 21 24 28 29 34
18 23 27 29 31 35
19 21 27 30 31 34
19 24 32 33 34 35
21 22 23 25 30 32
24 28 30 31 32 35
saludos

[SKS]

Hola Gracias ninjapin:
Claro que tengo algunas preguntas, pero la obvia sería.

¿Están reducidas a?

Es decir al 3, al 4; ó al 5?

[ninjapin]

hola sks, al 4 si 6 al 90% ma o meno me parece
saludos
creo ke son 400 y algo
cargalas en miprimitiva y haz pruebas, pero para rebajarlas mas la unica forma es meter condiciones.....

[SKS]

Gracias ninjapin:
Perdón por hacerte otra pregunta, ¿Cómo se mete en miprimitiva las combinaciones?, ó ¿es que debo generarlas y desde ahí, meto filtros?

Y, si, son 412 combinaciones.

[ninjapin]

hola sks, yo no se mucho de estas cosas la verdad, pero he probado a cargarlas indicando desde fichero y me lo hace, luego puedes hacer pruebas con el escrutador o como estimes oportuno.
saludos y por preguntar no hay problema, otra cosa es ek se pueda responder
000,025% 6 si 6 1-1 de 6, 0-0 de 5, 0-1 de 4, 4-16 de 3, 96-122 de 2, 154-182 de 1, 117-130 de 0
004,441% 5 si 6 1-2 de 5, 0-4 de 4, 5-25 de 3, 75-119 de 2, 155-201 de 1, 110-131 de 0
090,019% 4 si 6 1-6 de 4, 5-30 de 3, 62-116 de 2, 155-208 de 1, 109-131 de 0
100,000% 3 si 6 15-32 de 3, 65-109 de 2, 158-205 de 1, 110-131 de 0
100,000% 2 si 6
100,000% 1 si 6
100,000% 0 si 6

[SKS]

Gracias ninjapin por aclararlo.

Sería mucho preguntar cuales serían las combinaciones pero reducidas al 5?

[kot98]

Gracias ninja por la combinacion.

[paquita222]

:winke: chicos alguien puede poner esto por favor?

47 números por 200,300,400 y 500 apuestas.

muchísimas gracias

[PFPGU]

Hola, no descubro nada con lo que os voy a decir, pero puede ser que la idea os guste y la pongáis en funcionamiento.

Visto y leído vuestras inquietudes os propongo algo que no os va hacer ¨ricos¨ pero al menos no vais a perder tanto.

Queréis una combinación con 35 números, pues bien esto os cuesta 819 apuestas para 1-17 de 4

Lo que yo os propongo es jugar 35 numeros por 4428 apuestas para 15-45 de 4

Seguro que la pregunta es donde esta la ventaja, muy sencillo, un premio cuesta 819 apuestas y un premio de los 15 nos cuesta 295,20 apuestas, es decir hemos reducido 2.77 las apuestas.

El problema es que para uno solo es imposible poro para 15 jugadores ya solo cuesta 295,20 apuestas en lugar de 819

Las cuentas están hechas solo con la reducción, quiero decir que se pueden hacer dos cosas mas, una condicionar y otra que me parece mejor, es aumentar las apuestas que se pueden.

Las combinaciones están sacadas de la jolla 35-6-4-6=819 y la otra 35-6-4-4 =4428